Comments on: Celebratory Careers http://electrolicious.com/2003/05/celebratory_car Daily affirmations of a word mercenary Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: kim http://electrolicious.com/2003/05/celebratory_car#comment-2004 kim Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:36:55 +0000 #comment-2004 i feel that grades are not indicative of being smart, together, or otherwise well-adjusted. in fact, i'd argue that in many cases the happiest & most well-adjusted people have horrific grades. the same thing goes for other ways in which our society deems someone to be successful and to have their shit together. i feel that grades are not indicative of being smart, together, or otherwise well-adjusted. in fact, i’d argue that in many cases the happiest & most well-adjusted people have horrific grades. the same thing goes for other ways in which our society deems someone to be successful and to have their shit together.

]]> By: donut http://electrolicious.com/2003/05/celebratory_car#comment-2003 donut Sat, 31 May 2003 05:05:19 +0000 #comment-2003 I understand where you are coming from, but I make it a habit not to judge other people's drug use. I don't want anyone telling me what to put in my body, so I'll grant everyone that same degree of respect. I find few things more patronizing than people who say, "I can handle this drug, but you can't." I understand where you are coming from, but I make it a habit not to judge other people’s drug use. I don’t want anyone telling me what to put in my body, so I’ll grant everyone that same degree of respect.

I find few things more patronizing than people who say, “I can handle this drug, but you can’t.”

]]> By: Ariel http://electrolicious.com/2003/05/celebratory_car#comment-2002 Ariel Fri, 30 May 2003 22:52:41 +0000 #comment-2002 Hmm. Interesting comments! Keep 'em coming. Two offline theories from in-person conversations about this topic: Andreas' theory was that if you're <i>learning</i>, then it's not pathetic. When you stop learning from your substances, it's time to stop. Amanda's theory was that it's chemical and genetic. Some people have predispositions to addiction while others can function just fine. All very interesting. I'm appreciating everyone's perspectives, even when the perspectives clash. ;) Hmm. Interesting comments! Keep ‘em coming. Two offline theories from in-person conversations about this topic:

Andreas’ theory was that if you’re learning, then it’s not pathetic. When you stop learning from your substances, it’s time to stop.

Amanda’s theory was that it’s chemical and genetic. Some people have predispositions to addiction while others can function just fine.

All very interesting. I’m appreciating everyone’s perspectives, even when the perspectives clash. ;)

]]> By: brodie http://electrolicious.com/2003/05/celebratory_car#comment-2001 brodie Fri, 30 May 2003 21:12:17 +0000 #comment-2001 <p>Would it be enough to point out that if you have not been deeply involved in lower socio-economic families and seen what drug abuse does to people, even on this so-called 'casual' level , that your opinion of true drug-culture might not be fully formed? <br /> It is one thing to be an entitled middle class kid living in the throws of an angsty youth, but it is another thing entirley to be living in a shell of a family because one of your parents got an early start on the crank this morning. There is a differnce, indeed! However phrases like "if they can keep their grades up while getting loaded on the weekend ... more power to 'em! They're extra smart!" are just ignorant. They aren't extra smart, they are taking extra risks with long reaching reprocussions. How can you know you will get an end run around some very hard statistics? </p> <p>Referring to a someone as a "New Puritan" is a bit pergorative isn't it? I mean after all, I TEACH YOUR CHILDREN. Pragmatic, yes, puritanical, no. </p> Would it be enough to point out that if you have not been deeply involved in lower socio-economic families and seen what drug abuse does to people, even on this so-called ‘casual’ level , that your opinion of true drug-culture might not be fully formed?
It is one thing to be an entitled middle class kid living in the throws of an angsty youth, but it is another thing entirley to be living in a shell of a family because one of your parents got an early start on the crank this morning. There is a differnce, indeed! However phrases like “if they can keep their grades up while getting loaded on the weekend … more power to ‘em! They’re extra smart!” are just ignorant. They aren’t extra smart, they are taking extra risks with long reaching reprocussions. How can you know you will get an end run around some very hard statistics?

Referring to a someone as a “New Puritan” is a bit pergorative isn’t it? I mean after all, I TEACH YOUR CHILDREN. Pragmatic, yes, puritanical, no.

]]> By: mimi smartypants http://electrolicious.com/2003/05/celebratory_car#comment-2000 mimi smartypants Fri, 30 May 2003 20:02:32 +0000 #comment-2000 I'm pretty much with you. I not only kept my grades up in college while slipping over to the celebratory side often, I learned a lot and completely "worked up to my potential" (whatever that means, and I just gagged slightly while typing it). And while these days I am more about cocktails than acid, those too are quite simply something I enjoy: not a crutch, not a tool, not an escape, not something stopping me from living my life. Period. The New Puritanism really bothers me deep in my soul. (ooh. is Mimi cranky?) no. I’m pretty much with you. I not only kept my grades up in college while slipping over to the celebratory side often, I learned a lot and completely “worked up to my potential” (whatever that means, and I just gagged slightly while typing it). And while these days I am more about cocktails than acid, those too are quite simply something I enjoy: not a crutch, not a tool, not an escape, not something stopping me from living my life. Period. The New Puritanism really bothers me deep in my soul. (ooh. is Mimi cranky?)

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