The responses to the blog post that somehow became a front-page story on Alternet just keep piling up! First there were the commenters on Alternet, then there were a half-dozen writers who took their thoughts to their own blogs, now there are the comments threads on those sites. The most angry criticism seems to fall into themes, which (for your convenience and entertainment) I’ve outlined with examples for you below.
Hi, I didn’t like it:
Hated the article. Wanted to put my fist through the computer screen.The article stinks of elitism and unexamined prejudice.
The article is a piece of navel-fluff gazing.
… stinks of juvenile, navel-gazing, approval-seeking narcissism.
You call yourself a feminist?
Articles like this claiming to represent the “progressive” voices, including feminists, are a joke. There’s nothing new, interesting or insightful about them. They rely on false stereotypes, and avoid discussing real issues. By publishing junk like this, alternative news sources such as alternet are missing the whole point of being “alternative.”Stallings has fallen into the trap that has ensnared so many femininity-loving self-avowed feminists before her: she cannot tell the difference between what is true and what she wishes were true.
I don’t think she’s a “traitor” to feminism, but I do think she’s something of a traitor to herself.
This is the kind of miserable crap that comes out of feminism that really gives me a bad attitude towards it that I wouldn’t have otherwise. Women’s rights? Awesome. Social equality, fanfriggintastic. Is it antifeminist to diet? Stupidest shit I’ve ever heard in my life, short of Bush winning any election, ever.
Let’s get personal:
With this essay, Ms. Stallings prove herself to be a tool of The Man.Congratulations, Ariel, for daring to follow such all-too-obvious common sense. Seriously, isn’t it high time you not follow such mindless groupthink and had a mind of your own??
The author is likely a Trust Fund Baby who was able to snag a syndicated media gig after a decorative internship at an “alternative” media organization. No doubt she will have a lucrative career at Conde Nast at some point in her future, where she will pen earnest and uplifting puff pieces examining her gut-wrenching decision to get a tummy tuck after the birth of her genetically engineered surrogate-bred twins. By subtly attacking imaginary feminists who might discourage her “life affirming” decisions to be a post-partum Hoochie Mama, she will earn herself a coveted spot on the “liberal media” pundit circuit. No doubt,her “refreshing post-feminist” views on everything from Botox to Burqas will garner her numerous media awards.
Conspiracy theories:
I wouldn’t be surprized if this article was really sponsored by WW, it reads like a commercial.Personally, I didn’t think much of her article. They way she rambled on about Weight Watchers, I wouldn’t be surprised if she was being paid for it.
That is a wonderful advert for Weight Watchers and a nice jab at feminism which evidently means “stuffing myself” and “giving up control”. What a total crock.
I think the whole article is made up.
As much as I’m all for bucking up and taking it, I can’t help but chew over a few lessons from this experience:
1. Ask up front if web publications have syndication deals with other sites.
Not that I wouldn’t have let Sirens run the piece if I’d known about their syndication arrangement with Alternet, but at least I wouldn’t have been totally blindsided to wake up one morning and find dozens of people talking about how much they hated me for writing something I’d kind of forgotten even existed. Context is everything, and I agree with many critics on one point: this article so did NOT belong on Alternet. I didn’t submit it to them, and I have no idea why they chose to run it on their site. I’m guessing because they wanted to get people riled up. Mission accomplished, I suppose.
2. Watch edits carefully.
The two lines of the article that people are bitching about the most are two of the small tweaks that were made by editors at both Sirens and Alternet. I stand behind the article 100%, but this isn’t the first time that a subhead or an editor-penned closing sentence has gotten me in trouble, and I should probably know better by now. In my efforts not to be a diva, I approve most edits. Maybe I shouldn’t.
3. Accept that maybe I’m more of a provocateur than I know.
I tend to shy away from provocative, contrarian web writing. It feels like too much flame baiting and I’d rather write stuff that inspires people than stuff that gets them angry. But somehow this article (which was written to inspire) ended up making people angry … and that’s sort of fascinating. It got a lot of people talking, and while I might not have liked what they were saying (seriously: trust fund baby? wtf?) there’s no denying that one form of inspiration is inspiring dialog … even if it’s grumpy, critical dialog.
4. Maybe those reservations about writing about weight loss were founded.
I was really hesitant to write the blog post that ultimately turned into this article … and this kind of feedback is exactly why. It seems difficult to have polite web discourse about certain topics … and evidently this is one of them. That doesn’t mean I’ll avoid writing about such things again, but I’ll be better prepared for the potential fall-out.
Now, back to bucking up! Or rather: let’s move on. Who wants to talk about the burgeoning American circus underground?
Hey there. I'm Ariel Meadow Stallings, a native Seattleite who's written my way up and down the Left Coast. Electrolicious is where I post daily randomata, but I also write for a living. My first book, Offbeat Bride, was published last year.
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Ariel v.
November 5th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
I especially like the one that surmises you are a trust-fund baby. The stunning authority on you as a person with which these posts are written just blows me away. I know they teach us in college to be critical consumers of media, but holy crap that’s a lot of projecting!
You must be somewhat inured to this kind of stuff since you have a fairly long history as a writer, a lot of which is done in a forum where people can comment, (and hey, we all have our lenses through which we process input of any kind), but just want to send a little positive reinforcement anyway. Perhaps it’s because I know you in real-time, but the article didn’t strike me as particularly navel-gazing or narcissistic - nor did I think it gave a less-than-honest assessment of *your* particular experience with the issue. I, in fact, felt like what you said about it was important and worth writing about.
Thanks for writing, and provoking! I’m glad your voice is out there.
lily
November 5th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
me me! i want to talk about the circus underground!
Elli
November 5th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Bah, your article was great. It was honest and real, and I like that by writing it you’re giving other women permission to define feminism for themselves.
Beth
November 5th, 2006 at 10:32 pm
I couldn’t believe the way people continued to comment about you even after you’d introduced yourself in the comments! You were completely ignored. I was really surprised by the vitrol.
Oh, and why would YOU need the tummy tuck, since you’ll be paying a surrogate to have your babies?
Serene
November 6th, 2006 at 12:53 am
I think the fact that you haven’t gotten malignant on all these people that are jumping to wild conclusions speaks volumes about your character and professionalism.
And I don’t know about you, but clowns freak me out.
shauna
November 6th, 2006 at 6:48 am
bloody hell! what a circus. i loved the trust fun/conde nast comment in particular.
i didn’t see the original blog post or article as particularly navel-gazing, just one of the most thoughtful takes on weight I’d read in a long while. perhaps i’m some sort of brainless clod but i read some of those comments on Alternet and thought, now how did you get all that out of that article? it’s amazing (and strangely compelling) all the ways people can interpret your words.
Kathryn
November 6th, 2006 at 9:17 am
I read a few of the comments on Alternet, and my don’t these people take themselves very seriously. Moving on…
amy.leblanc
November 6th, 2006 at 9:53 am
i’m going to be doing some modeling in this great thing in a couple of weeks (11/18) called Bohemian Carnival: http://www.bohemiancarnival.net/ . it’s a monthly; your SF friends should come check it out.
By Jane
November 6th, 2006 at 10:48 am
In my efforts not to be a diva, I approve most edits. Maybe I shouldn’t.
You absolutely shouldn’t. There is a reason why journalists have competitions for who got fucked over the worst by an editor.
Liz
November 6th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
I’ve been following your thoughts on people’s reaction to the article, but after today’s post I had to go back and re-read it, thinking, “Did I miss something?” But I didn’t. I love the sentiment now as much as I did then and I really do think it’s brave coming out in favor of healthy eating and mentioning those forbidden “weight loss” sentiments in a positive context.
imaginary dana
November 6th, 2006 at 6:13 pm
Your article was one of the major catalysts that kicked my sit-on-my-ass-all-day-and-night-20-lb-weight-gain self over the WW shame and into the points, baby, POINTS!! Your article was charming and inspiring — those alternet betches can all suck it back and forth.
imaginary dana
November 6th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
PS ~ I fear clowns.
lisa
November 7th, 2006 at 3:55 am
Ariel,
You’re absolutely correct when you say that “…it seems difficult to have polite web discourse about certain topics” (I think it’s also the case in real, non-web life as well). I’ve found this to be more and more true on Alternet. I used to read them a lot more than I do now. I got tired of the nasty, personal attacks against writers/bloggers in the comments portion of each story featured on the website. I have had to train myself to *not* read comments b/c I always ended up angry. So much vitriol, no productive discussions. I think there’s some sort of sociological study in there somewhere…
Anyway, I’m glad your article was on Alternet, otherwise, I never would have been aware of your wonderful blog.
savia
November 7th, 2006 at 7:14 am
Thanks for stopping by my blog, Ariel. Weight loss is one of those things that really touches a chord with people - it’s intensely private and public at the same time and everyone seems to want to “weigh in” on the topic. Keep your chin up
alphabitch
November 7th, 2006 at 8:20 am
Your comment ["In my efforts not to be a diva, I approve most edits. Maybe I shouldn't"] reminds me of a joke: An editor and a reporter are walking through the desert, running out of water. They come to a tiny pool of brackish water seeping out of a rock and they’re overjoyed; the editor proceeds to squat over the tiny pool and pee in it. The reporter, furious, asks her what in the hell she’s doing. “Just giving you a little more to work with,” she says.
Discussing legitimate concerns about an edit is not the same as being a diva.
You are right that weight loss is one of those issues that can instantly rile up the feminist blogosphere. Difficult but I hope not impossible to engage in a polite discourse about it.
Oh, and clowns are deeply disturbing, but I like the fire dancing. Have you seen the Bindlestiff Family Cirkus?
Victoria
November 7th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
As an occasional reader of both your blog and Twisty’s, I just want to say this makes my heart ache. Much of the critique, I thought, was fair (however, I thought that before I knew about the last-sentence-edit issue), though the pile-on is another matter entirely. The really fucked up thing for me here is that I had been considering doing some public writing around my own weight loss/gain issues over the last few years, which are complex, nuanced (like any human being’s life issues will be, regardless of how they are represented in the various public squares).
Certainly, you’re handling all of this with more grace than I would.
Chin up, keep writing, take care of yourself, learn from it all, move on, be happy.
Oh and also, death to the patriarchy. You know, that force that divides women from other women in order to facilitate all its conquering and shit.
- V. (Who often wishes she were still in Seattle, so as to take in this Salon of Shame thing I keep hearing about via Joriel and Ben, et. al.; dammit, why didn’t I think of that?)
Playapixie
November 9th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
Crazy. It was a blog post. Blogs are for writing personal whatever-you-want. Even as a magazine article, it was still an editorial, an opinion. It’s not like you wrote it as fact, or even as an information piece. Gah. People sure get worked up over nothing.
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