You are vegetarian and Dre is a vegan — would love to hear more about your history/path to those choices, and also more about the practical aspects (since Dre is vegan I assume all home-cooked meals are vegan?) Any favorite cookbooks you use?
Ah yes. The joy of being married to someone with a different special needs diet. First, to clarify, I should point out that I eat fish, and therefore am not vegetarian. This makes me an ovo-lacto pescatarian or something. Andreas, meanwhile, has been vegan for 13 years.
Here’s a little window into eating at the Cheateau Fetzllings:
Every morning, one of us gets up and shuffles into the kitchen to put on tea water. As one of us gurgles sleepily in bed, the other brews up a big pot of black tea, pours the tea into oversized mugs, and stirs a spoonful of honey into each. Then, they reach into the fridge and grab two milk containers: one organic non-fat, the other Vanilla Silk soy milk. Each cup gets its own kind of milk, and then the teamaker delivers a cup full of icky milk they don’t like to their sleepy spouse.
Dre’s and my diets are driven by different ideals. He was raised on meat ‘n’ potatoes and was recruited by some vegan Germans who visited his family in 1994 — the Germans are no longer vegan, but Dre still is. He’s vegan primarily for environmental and animal rights reasons, and my understanding is that he eats lower on the trophic system because it lowers his planetary impact, and doesn’t eat animals because he doesn’t like killing things when he doesn’t need to. He’s suggested that if he was in the woods starving he would have absolutely no qualms about ripping off a rabbit’s head and gnawing its meat off its cute little bones — but since he doesn’t NEED to do so most days, he’d prefer to eat kinder.
As for me, I was raised mostly vegetarian — turkey on holidays, fish on special occasions. I’d started eating a little meat in college when dining out, but never really developed a taste for it or understood how to cook it. When Dre and I moved in together, I decided I’d try being a stricter vegetarian, and found it easy to transition back to — Except for fish. I really like fish. So after a couple years of vegetarianism in the late ’90s, I opened my diet back up to fish and am happy about it. So I guess for me, my diet is partially just an issue of taste (don’t like meat), partially an issue of health (it’s not good for me), and partially an issue of animal rights (don’t like where most meats come from).
Now, in terms of what we eat, I definitely eat way more of his food. Which is fine because well-prepared vegan dishes aren’t usually lacking for taste and deliciousness, and realistically cheese ain’t the greatest protein source. When Dre cooks I’m always happy to eat his vegan meals — although I have been known to sprinkle parmesan on my portion of the pasta. I’m trying to get better about cooking more, but I don’t really like following recipes and many of my default meals aren’t vegan … so more often than not I let Dre cook since he’s the one with the special needs. He’s generous and will add cheese to certain meals for me. That seems to be the limit though — he won’t cook me fish or bake me a cheesecake.
Eggs are definitely a major issue. I loooove eggs and Dre can’t stand the way they smell, so he usually asks that I don’t prepare them when he’s home. This has lead to things like, a few years ago, me throwing an egg-centric brunch potluck while Dre was out of town. Sometimes he’ll come home after circus class and find me guiltily waving a stick of incense, windows open and the odor of veggie omelet dinner still wafting through the air.
I know that Dre and I have both had moments of wishing we ate the same diet. Once, very early on in our relationship, we were in the middle of a debate about something and Dre got exasperated and blurted out, “And on top of it all, you’ve never even TRIED being vegan!” I bristled and went cold, he immediately took it back, and we got on with it.
On my side of things, sometimes I’m a wicked temptress. Dre’s been vegan for long enough that he’s not often tempted, but sometimes I wave delicious things in front of his nose and I’ve been bad about buying him leather shoes (Gah: sorry, but they last 10 times longer — all those pleather shoes in landfills isn’t helping things!). Dre’s been known to cheat every once in a great while, too. I will not out his weaknesses, but he’s not impossibly rigid in his diet and recognizes that sometimes it’s more about the experience than the dietary dogma.
Sometimes it is frustrating that we don’t eat the same foods. I would love it if Dre would whip up a delicious salmon fillet some night, and I’m sure he’d be stoked if I came home with a tub of Soy Delicious fake ice cream for us to split. But, like most couples, our different tastes don’t keep us from enjoying food together. I love brunch, and he doesn’t — totally unrelated to dietary issues — and yet we still manage to go out to eat together at 11am on a Sunday. Proof that love between vegans and non-vegans is sustainable!
In terms of cookbooks, that’s more Dre’s domain — so perhaps he will fill us in in the comments?
Commenters, take note: I’m totally uninterested in getting into any sort of dietary debates here, ie why one diet is better than others, why vegans are righteous and suck, why omnivores are murderers, how we’re all hypocrites, etc.
Hey there. I'm Ariel Meadow Stallings, a native Seattleite who's written my way up and down the Left Coast. Electrolicious is where I post daily randomata, but I also write for a living. My first book, Offbeat Bride, was published last year.
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Zandria
November 12th, 2007 at 5:59 am
I liked reading your account of how you and Dre make your different dietary preferences work.
Brianna
November 12th, 2007 at 9:47 am
Thanks, that was very interesting. I lived with a vegan as a close housemate for about a year and a half, and it definitely affected how I ate, and what I learned to cook (tofu-based spanakopita = DELICIOUS). I consider it a very valuable experience in my life… but it’s more interesting to see how that works within the context of a committed lifelong relationship.
Cinnamon
November 12th, 2007 at 10:35 am
This was really interesting and a great read! My current beau is a longtime vegetarian and now pescatarian (like you). I actually was vegetarian for about 10 years and vegan for several of those (I’m lactose-intolerant, so it wasn’t much of a stretch). But, after falling off the veggie wagon with a BLT one late nite, I’m back on the carnivorous tip. It’s not to say I won’t go back to being completely veg — I tend to only eat free-range and organic meats and eggs now — but, for now I’m enjoying the variety.
When I am with Kevin and we cook, we cook veg/fish. Which, as you said, is so much healthier and I love it. Definitely about compromise and not being dogmatic about one’s preferences.
THANK YOU!
Sara
November 12th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Great post! I’m always curious about how couples make differences in food choices work together. You guys seem to be doing it right!
Sean Shannon
November 12th, 2007 at 11:40 am
On the subject of diets, have you ever posted Dre’s vegan chili recipe? I can’t find it in your archives here or in your Mr. Bento photos on Flickr, and it looks positively delicious …
lily
November 12th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
i love cheese & sushi way too much to be vegan…but that still won’t stop me from going out to eat w/ you guys!
Ariel
November 12th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Lily, you remind me of the funniest thing about being married to a vegan: people assume I must be vegan too! Everyone always makes a special point to tell me where the vegan dishes are at the potluck, to which I respond — fuck the hummus! Where’s the shrimp!?
Laura
November 12th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
I’m in the exact same situation, but I’m the cook. Half the time, I make something we can both eat (garbanzo bean stew, chili, yaki soba), and then the other half I make his-and-her meals. I make two of every casserole. I put cheese on my food; none on his. It gets frustrating sometimes when I want to make something cheesy and delicious, but it feels too decadent to eat alone. It seems ridiculous to make two of everything, but it’s become an easy habit.
But overall, I think being with a vegan has been better for me. I use all vegan background ingredients like soy milk, and I eat less cheese. But I’ll never give it up–I love it way too much.
chase
November 15th, 2007 at 8:03 am
Great post. It’s a subject people don’t bring up often, but an issue faced frequently these days.
I’m vegan & my husband ate meat when we met. He went vegetarian after ten months, & it’s now been five years of dietary difference. (Vegan/vegetarian far less so than vegan/omnivore, but a difference nonetheless.)
I’ve been guilty of blurting, too: “When are you just gonna go vegan?” Thanks for the reminder about diversity in personal choices.
WildKid
November 27th, 2007 at 4:10 am
Really good and really interesting post. I expect (and other readers maybe :)) new useful posts from you!
Good luck and successes in blogging!
yvette
January 10th, 2008 at 10:33 am
I really enjoyed reading this post. I too am an ovo-lacto pescatarian even though my better half is a meat eater. Everyone always feels sorry for him and must ask “what do you eat?” Because I am the one with the special diet I am the one who does most of the cooking, but you better believe that Berto is not shy to add in his chicken or pork to anything.
It’s good to know there are more couples like us out there. ; )
RamonaMayhem
January 22nd, 2008 at 1:47 am
I can tell you two are very healthy and respectful of each other’s choices–besides! You put honey in his tea! Who can live without honey?
yum.
~rm
sarah
February 14th, 2008 at 10:58 am
i was dating this guy for awhile who was quite allied with meat / dairy - being Québécois, and big on french food (esp cheese). i am vegan, and was often subjected to grumbling about how it was so boring that we couldn’t go out to eat at just any restaurant, or he couldn’t just make a meal for us out of good cheese, bread and wine. it ended up being a major dividing point (i thought, anyway) in our relationship…. nice to hear about you guys finding ways to make it work!
Anthony
May 16th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
I was interested in the part about honey in BOTH teas. This is an honest question: does Dre not consider bees to be animals? I ask in part because of a vegan friend who once told me he wouldnt use a certain lip balm because it included beeswax in it.
Andreas
May 22nd, 2008 at 2:17 pm
There is a lot of variety in terms of this depending on what your reasons are for being vegan. Technically, honey is not vegan though I know a lot of people (including myself) who call themselves vegan yet are fine with honey. For me, since my main motivation is to have as little impact on the environment as possible, honey doesn’t seem to have a negative impact in regards to land use issues. There are some pretty good, humane bee keepers out there who take good care of the bees and for some people, that is where they draw the line, between the bee-industrial complex and local, organic bee farmers.
I also eat chocolate of any kind when put in front of me. I believe that one must have some vices.
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Réka
September 7th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Hello from a random stranger…
In my household, there is the following setup:
1. My fiancé who used to be vegetarian for years while in the States, but found the diet impossible to maintain in Hungary where we live, prefers to eat as little meat as possible.
2. Me who is an omnivore, but would for health reasons need to be on a low carb diet.
3. Our two toddler-aged daughters who are both omnivores but both allergic to cow’s milk and soy protein.
Try to serve a meal in OUR house! Ugh!
the mighty jimbo
September 8th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
dre and i eat the way we eat for the same way mostly. environmental impact.
admittedly, i went back to pescatarian last year. i’m not convinced even a vegan society is sustainable long term, i’m still convinced we are over fishing, but there are too many health benefits to a little sushi now and again. i’d prefer to catch my own fish. until then, i’ll have a slice of tuna sashimi on occasion.
oh. one other rule. if i’m traveling overseas, all bets are off. it’s quite simple actually. if i’m a guest in your village and you kill a goat just for me, i’ll eat your goat.