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	<title>Comments on: FAQ: Postfeminism</title>
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		<title>By: ellie</title>
		<link>http://electrolicious.com/2007/12/faq-postfeminism#comment-9087</link>
		<dc:creator>ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ariel - I met you this weekend at your Ma's house. I support your saying whatever you think about whatever topic you want! Say hi to Sassy Beanbutt for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ariel - I met you this weekend at your Ma&#8217;s house. I support your saying whatever you think about whatever topic you want! Say hi to Sassy Beanbutt for me!</p>
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		<title>By: ariana</title>
		<link>http://electrolicious.com/2007/12/faq-postfeminism#comment-9052</link>
		<dc:creator>ariana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Note: I realize that while this kind of thinking sounds totally normal in my pinko grad school/labor movement bubble, it probably sounds crazy out here on the interweb.  But here goes...)

An interesting perspective, Ariel, and I can see how "post-feminist" fits if you feel like everyone with whom you have regular contact is at least nominally feminist.  I would argue, though, that second- (and first- and third-) wave western feminism is just one strand or tradition... there's a whole world of feminisms out there that know and critique the limitations of western feminism.

I suspect, also, that you could find plenty of sexism and anti-feminism even within your bubble if you looked past the shiny liberal surfaces.  Who serves you your coffee? Who's making and selling your Gap jeans?  (I'm not taking the high road here, I have some too!)  When you go to a conference or for a getaway weekend, who cleans your hotel room?  Who picks the fruits and vegetables you eat? Who processes and packages your food?  Your electronics? And then there's the world outside the bubble, which as you mentioned, is much, much worse.

These questions of who serves the coffee, who sews the garments, and who cleans the hotel rooms, etc. points to my own sense of what feminism is about (for me): it's one plane of resistance to interlocking modes of domination based on gender, race, class, geography, etc... This is why I wouldn't define myself as solely a feminist, but something like a marxist feminist anti-racist (catchy, ain't it?).  In fact, I'd probably privilege capitalism over racism and sexism as the primary mode of domination that we should be struggling to change--because under capitalism, hierarchies of difference like gender and race are cultivated and exploited, and so a lot of what we see when we look at sexism and racism are the effects of late capitalism.  

It doesn't matter what kind of bubble you're living in--these relations of domination, which are always bound up with one another, are always reproduced inside the bubble, you reap the benefits of them inside the bubble, they find ways inside the bubble through commodity chains and through the service economy.  I think this is worth noticing and working to change.</description>
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<p>An interesting perspective, Ariel, and I can see how &#8220;post-feminist&#8221; fits if you feel like everyone with whom you have regular contact is at least nominally feminist.  I would argue, though, that second- (and first- and third-) wave western feminism is just one strand or tradition&#8230; there&#8217;s a whole world of feminisms out there that know and critique the limitations of western feminism.</p>
<p>I suspect, also, that you could find plenty of sexism and anti-feminism even within your bubble if you looked past the shiny liberal surfaces.  Who serves you your coffee? Who&#8217;s making and selling your Gap jeans?  (I&#8217;m not taking the high road here, I have some too!)  When you go to a conference or for a getaway weekend, who cleans your hotel room?  Who picks the fruits and vegetables you eat? Who processes and packages your food?  Your electronics? And then there&#8217;s the world outside the bubble, which as you mentioned, is much, much worse.</p>
<p>These questions of who serves the coffee, who sews the garments, and who cleans the hotel rooms, etc. points to my own sense of what feminism is about (for me): it&#8217;s one plane of resistance to interlocking modes of domination based on gender, race, class, geography, etc&#8230; This is why I wouldn&#8217;t define myself as solely a feminist, but something like a marxist feminist anti-racist (catchy, ain&#8217;t it?).  In fact, I&#8217;d probably privilege capitalism over racism and sexism as the primary mode of domination that we should be struggling to change&#8211;because under capitalism, hierarchies of difference like gender and race are cultivated and exploited, and so a lot of what we see when we look at sexism and racism are the effects of late capitalism.  </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what kind of bubble you&#8217;re living in&#8211;these relations of domination, which are always bound up with one another, are always reproduced inside the bubble, you reap the benefits of them inside the bubble, they find ways inside the bubble through commodity chains and through the service economy.  I think this is worth noticing and working to change.</p>
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		<title>By: dori</title>
		<link>http://electrolicious.com/2007/12/faq-postfeminism#comment-9039</link>
		<dc:creator>dori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i stopped using any sort of "fem" title for myself - i just call myself an equalist these days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i stopped using any sort of &#8220;fem&#8221; title for myself - i just call myself an equalist these days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: amy.leblanc</title>
		<link>http://electrolicious.com/2007/12/faq-postfeminism#comment-9027</link>
		<dc:creator>amy.leblanc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooo, archetypes v. stereotypes.  now there's a nice juicy topic for pontification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooo, archetypes v. stereotypes.  now there&#8217;s a nice juicy topic for pontification.</p>
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		<title>By: tia</title>
		<link>http://electrolicious.com/2007/12/faq-postfeminism#comment-9011</link>
		<dc:creator>tia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  Fun reading as always.</description>
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